we had a nice long talk and i brought up some things that make me think that this isn't the "truth" and she somewhat agreed with me.
i stuck with things i personally experienced or had knowledge of plus all the changes in recent years.
she agreed on a lot of the points but still believes in god and the bible.
Maybe changing halls will show her other things that she didn't expect. Halls can vary a great deal depending on the elders. My old hall seemed pretty nice but one night I went to another hall because I had missed the mid meeting. What I saw had my head spinning. Too bad I didn't take it as a wake up call.
It seems like you are taking it slow which is good. Hope your endeavors with your wife work out and she gets out.
the wife and i were expecting a health worker to call at our door 10:30 this morning and about 10;35 two women appeared at our door so i opened up thinking they were who i expected ,so i was take back a bit being caught off guard when they identified themselves as doing a bible work.. this is just the gist of what took place & not a word for word conversation.. a woman about in her fifties her companion about her twenties.the older woman did most of the talking as she read to me the scripture from her phone " in the last days critical times hard to deal with...etc.etc.and she went back and emphasised that we were living in the last days because of what that scripture said.. i made the comment that the scripture just about sums up human history in any given time.then i went on to say that this day and age is the best time in human history overall given the advances in technology ,medical procedures ,the overall standard of living being higher and so on .but they insisted on we were living in the last days.then i said different religions have been claiming that for the past couple hundred years.. then to throw them a curve ball i asked if they were mormons ?
oh no we are jehovah`s witnesses.had i been prepared for them and not caught out unawares i would have taken a different tact.i then asked the older woman how long she has been a witness and she said 36 years so i then said to her you must have seen a lot of changes in your religion during that time which she agreed with.
( the light gets brighter).
Didn't they just recently demote Mr. Charles? I think he was no longer considered part of the faithful slave. Haha if they only knew about the drunk Judge Rutherford.
in july of 1969, i was 16 years old and was pretty excited by the prospect that the us would shortly land a man on the moon.
however, i remember, vividly and older brother at the time confidently stating that man would never walk on the moon, quoting psalms 115 - "as for the heavens, they belong to jehovah.
but the earth he has given to the sons of man.
For me the moon landing brought out thoughts of what could go wrong. Much like a submarine, not much you can do when you run out of air. And I wondered, what is going to moon going do to help people on the earth? All the money wasted when they could help improve drought areas etc.
this is the first time i have posted on here in many years..... i seldom visit now although this forum was instrumental to me in gaining my sanity in the early 2000's and recovering from the watchtower religion.. by chance tonight i was on youtube and caught a jw.org video which out of curiosity prompted me to look at the official website and amongst other things i looked up the music section.. why that i hear you ask?
music is my passion and nothing reminds me more or evokes more memories than the kingdom songs i grew up listening to.. i am 49 years old and my mother was baptised in 1974. i grew up in the era of pink songbooks and green bibles.
of the theology of fred franz and types and anti-types.
One older sister that I had been taking to the meetings just before I left, hated, hated the new songs. She was in poor health and kept saying the new world had better come soon. Well she died a few years after I left never seeing the new world...
this is the first time i have posted on here in many years..... i seldom visit now although this forum was instrumental to me in gaining my sanity in the early 2000's and recovering from the watchtower religion.. by chance tonight i was on youtube and caught a jw.org video which out of curiosity prompted me to look at the official website and amongst other things i looked up the music section.. why that i hear you ask?
music is my passion and nothing reminds me more or evokes more memories than the kingdom songs i grew up listening to.. i am 49 years old and my mother was baptised in 1974. i grew up in the era of pink songbooks and green bibles.
of the theology of fred franz and types and anti-types.
I'm older than you #6 and the WT's dragged on long before you. You think your salvation is at hand when you look back at the clock and it's 5 to 12. 5 minutes that somehow dragged on for another 10. Then the long prayer.
I remember assemblies that proved the Trinity wrong. Who Babylon the Great was. The types and anitypes. Declarations against false religion that brought thunderous clapping around the stadium. Loud joyful singing. Remember the song that had as the ending chorus "What shall we bring, Jehovah's kingdom?" sung by the brothers and then the answer by the sisters - "Triumph and truth and righteousness" Then all would sing the end. That was back in the day before 1975 and people had a firm belief that soon, yes soon Armageddon would bring relief and the end of death.
i know i would be miserable if i could remember all my dead relatives.
all my dead children, parents all my worldly family members and friends, yes and the billions of other people too.
all the people jehovah will be killing off in the years to come.
My mom already acts like she has a lobotomy. My sister came close to death and I told our mother that. Even sent a picture of her in the hospital.
Never called. Never inquired. Guess since I didn't tell her that she died (which she didn't) she just assumed that she lived.
the april 2019 study edition page 20 has an article on resisting wicked spirits.
it says "magic refers to practices associated with the occult, or the supernatural.
it can include curses and the casting or breaking of spells.
t says "magic refers to practices associated with the occult, or the supernatural. It can include curses and the casting or breaking of spells. It does not refer to tricks using quick hand movements, which some people perform merely for entertainment."
This must mean that the GB got caught watching America's Got Talent and had to print something up. Just so the regulars don't gossip about it.
Wait for the "Is it wrong to buy liquor in Great Quantities?" article.
i just recently attended a circuit assembly and they asked that you did not share any video with anyone and i’m just wondering why this is .
They used to say don't record the talks unless it's for a family member - I guess if they were sick and didn't make it.
In reality, it made it easier to deny that any specific thing had been said from the podium. It allows them to wiggle free of responsibility. But there are a few talks that made it to the internet that reveal what was really said.
I wish that I had a recording of the assembly probably 10 years ago, that mocked the very people that had followed the WT encouragement, that 1975 was going to see Armageddon. That was coupled with Harold Camping predicting a specific day for the end of the world. The speaker even gave this slow Ha Ha Ha over it. It made me so mad because sincere people had given up homes and businesses to pioneer or do more. Just two years ago, they had a video that called those followers, weak spiritually for "following a date" Yes, it was a date that the WT promoted.
recently reflecting on some of the great songs that came out of that decade.
any favorites post them up .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuza6qijvfu.
recently reflecting on some of the great songs that came out of that decade.
any favorites post them up .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuza6qijvfu.
